"If I talk down to people enough by calling them mouthbreathers and cowards, then that'll make me win arguments! I have no problem with taking statistics where women are disadvantaged face value as truth and basing my beliefs off of them, but if you bring me similar statistics for men, then I'll want to look at every variable I can for an excuse as to why they're false! Conformation bias is wonderful!" - Greg Rucka's insecure-as-fuck subconscious— Anonymous
Well, you’ve certainly shown me.
I understand the angry anon was out of line and equating two unrelated scenarios as though one made the other okay, but that doesn't make the data they mention false or "made up", not not in any way relevent— spiral-shark
This, again, is fair, but I think it bears further examination. The anon called me a white knight, which identified him as an MRA, or at least as someone who’s drinking that Kool-Aid. MRA citing of suicide stats is self-serving and limited, in my experience, to say the least.
Yes, suicide rates are much higher amongst adolescent and young men than they are amongst women in the same age group, as much as four times higher according to some studies. What bears further examination is how these number reflect not simply being male, but being male and low-income, or of color, or of non heteronormative sexuality, or any combination thereof. Those factors are conveniently ignored by MRAers who use this data to cite their perceived persecution, because certainly the male culture they feel they must defend cannot be the cause of the problem.
It’s also worth noting, I think, that suicide rates are increasing amongst young women.
This is part of a much longer, and larger, and very legitimate conversation, I think, and you are correct in calling me out for dismissing the anon so completely. But to be fair, he was an asshole, and I’ve already given him more time than he deserves.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.”
― John F. Kennedy, Kennedy’s Inaugural address of 1961.
I really loved your blog post but just want to point out that not all males have penises and not all people with penises are male so could you not equate body parts with gender please?— punkfae
I knew — I KNEW — someone was going to point this out, and I actually did consider clarifying further in the piece, and chose not to for reasons of (God help me, I’m a writer) pace and phrasing.
Fair point, and thanks for the note.